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Title: Taitz of Sanctions: A Mockery of Justice
Source: ohforgoodnesssake.com
URL Source: http://ohforgoodnesssake.com/?p=3851
Published: Oct 16, 2009
Author: Orly
Post Date: 2009-10-16 16:16:36 by IDontThinkSo
Keywords: Orly
Views: 1550
Comments: 62

Responding to a supporter today on her web site, Dr. Orly Taitz, Esq.:

I will clearly appeal this mockery of justice. Judge Land was totally dishonest and misstated and misrepresented 99% of what was written in the pleadings and what transpired during the hearings. He broke and violated each and every rule in the book: his own local rules, clear precedents, rule of law and Constitution in order to appease this Kenyan dictator and his regime. Will the Circuit Court of Appeals be less corrupt, remains to be seen. We have seen total dereliction of duties by so many in the Federal government, nothing will surprise me. Normally I would be entitled to file a motion before the trial judge to Alter the Judgment, in this matter of sanctions, however I believe it might be futile to go to the same judge and it might be better to go directly to the 11th Circuit Court of Appeals or Supreme Court. Land has contradicted himself time and again. On one hand he is stating that punishment would require another judge to look at the record, however he refuses to recuse himself while imposing $20,000 sanctions without giving me sufficient time to respond, to request a hearing, to show that rule 11 sanctions are not only not warranted but constitute complete travesty of justice. Rule 11 sanctions are applied when an attorney didn’t do sufficient inquiry, sufficient investigation prior to filing a case. Readers of this website know that nobody on this planet did as much inquiry as I did, prior to filing this case. This is appalling. What is more appalling, is that Land is saying that he will give this $20,000 to some private charity that supposedly benefits the military. What does he think? Does he think that each and every member of US military is a complete idiot and cannot see through this thinly veiled attempt to appease the military. Land is de facto telling each and every member of US military: “I will take all your constitutional rights away from you. You have no right to question any unlawful order. You have to act as a dumb robot obeying each and every order coming from this Kenyan dictator, however I will throw you a bone, I will take $20,000 from your attorney and will give it to some foundation. Take a bone and be a good and obedient dogie, be quiet.”

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#10. To: IDontThinkSo (#0)

Here's a few more munchies. I found these at DU. I wouldn't EVER go to her infected web site, but someone at DU had the guts to do it.

FROM COLUMBUS GA Posted on | October 17, 2009 | No Comments Hi Orly,

I am a resident of Columbus, GA and a true patriot. I would like to help you to help this country! I have been keeping up with Judge C. Lands and the $20,000 . Unbelievable! Anyway, I am a registered Nurse…Clinical Coordinator at St Francis Hospital ER. I have contact with many….espcially Doc’s, Medical Professionals, and the public.

The more I read about Obama and this Administration…the more amazed I become as to how this con-man could ever hold the highest position in the world!

Please mail me or call if I can be of any assistance.

Thanks for all your hard work. PLEASE don’t GIVE UP!!

Annella Larkey

Response:

I need help in putting together $20,000 . I need help in raising the whole Fort Benning in outrage for what was done to me. I have to file another case on behalf of a number of members of military, particularly ones that are about to be deployed, to show them that they can’t break us they can’t scare us with their outrageous sanctions. There is less chance that they will retaliate, if a number of members of military will join. After these sanctions I can demand a different judge because this one is obviously biased. No member of US military can take orders from this Kenyan- Indonesian dictator without violating his oath to protect the Constitution of United States of America. We need to remove from office this fraud and tyrant and everybody else in the government, who was aiding and abeting him. All of them will need to be prosecuted for aiding and abeting this massive fraud and treason. I need more plaintiffs with strong standing in different states. Actually, any citizen can be a plaintiff. What is the most important, is to find judges, who have guts, who have a backbone, and who weren’t bought and paid for with promises of advancement, seat on a Supreme Court one day or cushy job for their friends and relatives.

Category: Uncategorized I NEED HELP IN STOPPING THIS MAN AND GETTING HIM PSYCHIATRIC CARE BEFORE HE BECOMES VIOLENT Posted on | October 17, 2009 | No Comments

This man is sending to me hundreds of comments like this. His IP was traced to 2 different locations: one is on the border of Seattle WA and Canada and another in TX. I will be speaking in TX tomorrow. This man is clearly obsessed with hatred and can do anything. I need all the help I can get in ascertaining who he is. Fred Jones might not be his real name. I need to know how he looks like, so I can better protect myself.I need people to report him wherever he is for cyber attacks and cyber harassment. He might be a brain washed patsy or heavily medicated person, whom someone wants to use to get rid of me. I might need some personal security at this meeting tomorrow in Houston. Keep in mind- this might be a woman, who assumed a man’s name, it might be a group of Obama supporters blogging under one name.

(followed by many profanity laced comments by a correspondent named Fred Jones)

IMPORTANT Posted on | October 17, 2009 | 1 Comment

I called Lord Mockton at spp institute. His aid Bob Ferguson said that they deal only with global warming and will not be involved. These aids are often placed in key positions to sway the leaders. Can someone reach Lord Mockton bypassing this sold out aid.

In re to the clerk, who worked for Bob Bauer, Obama’s lawyer and now someone got this person position with judge Carter, I was asked if he started after I filed with Carter. I don’t know the answer to this one yet, all i know is that this atty is from Seattle WA, hot bed of Socialists and Communists,I wouldn’t put anything pass that crowd.

I am currently looking for plaintiffs with standing in DC, Eastern District of VA, ID, Eastern District of TX, OK

Look at the Controller, a Nazi with a social degree

Mekons5 posted on 2009-10-17 20:03:56 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

#11. To: Mekons5 (#10)

Response:
I need help in putting together $20,000

sure

I do not want the peace that passeth understanding. I want the understanding which bringeth peace. ~Helen Keller

Robin posted on 2009-10-17 21:28:26 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

#12. To: Robin, Mekons5 (#11)

I need help in putting together $20,000 .

Gee, I thought she said she wasn't going to pay the $20K and was going to appeal to the 11th Circuit.

nolu chan posted on 2009-10-18 2:30:27 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

#13. To: nolu chan (#12)

Gee, I thought she said she wasn't going to pay the $20K and was going to appeal to the 11th Circuit.

I don't think she said anything about paying the $20k, just that she needed $20k.

Maybe she's looking for the down payment on a military Hummer, given all of these threats she says she's receiving.

Palin-Bachmann, the All Wingnut Ticket for 2012

IDontThinkSo posted on 2009-10-18 13:34:09 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

#14. To: IDontThinkSo (#13)

I don't think she said anything about paying the $20k, just that she needed $20k.
Maybe she's looking for the down payment on a military Hummer, given all of these threats she says she's receiving.

LOL

Maybe old boteye will sell her a used Hummer.

I do not want the peace that passeth understanding. I want the understanding which bringeth peace. ~Helen Keller

Robin posted on 2009-10-18 13:40:10 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

#15. To: nolu chan (#12)

I'm almost tempted to send her some money. But I'm broke. Still, it would be fun to keep her spinning like a demented top.

Look at the Controller, a Nazi with a social degree

Mekons5 posted on 2009-10-19 0:15:07 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

#16. To: Mekons5 (#15)

Myself, I think she is a great genuinely demented version of Phyllis Diller. If she was locked in a zoo's monkey house, she would be the one getting the peanuts thrown at her to encourage her antics.

Ferret Mike posted on 2009-10-19 12:40:59 ET (2 images) Reply Trace Private Reply

#17. To: Ferret Mike, IDontThinkSo, Mekons5, Robin, *Wingnuts* (#16)

New filings in Rhodes v. MacDonald in Georgia:

DOC 31Letter of Transmittal re Appeal Documents

DOC 32 Memo re 11th Circuit Transcript Information Sheet

DOC 33-1 Notice of Motion to File Amicus Brief by Victor M. Serby

DOC 33-2 Amicus Brief in Opposition to Court's Intended Purpose

DOC 33-3 Envelope

nolu chan posted on 2009-10-23 14:52:09 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

#18. To: nolu chan (#17) (Edited)

Ferret Mike posted on 2009-10-23 15:06:08 ET (2 images) Reply Trace Private Reply

#19. To: nolu chan (#17)

Here's one for the subjects of the country Birtherstan to mull over.

Note the highly famose and reputable Robert Heinlein signed it himself, a sure sign this document is just as genuine as anything crazy eyes Orly has produced...err..found.

Ferret Mike posted on 2009-10-23 15:19:27 ET (1 image) Reply Trace Private Reply

#20. To: Ferret Mike (#18)

nolu chan posted on 2009-10-23 16:19:11 ET (3 images) Reply Trace Private Reply

#21. To: Ferret Mike (#19)

I liked when Phil Berg, in a brief, cited a Canadian BC on the net he had heard about (but evidently not seen). It was signed by Dudley Doright.

nolu chan posted on 2009-10-23 16:21:48 ET (1 image) Reply Trace Private Reply

#22. To: nolu chan (#21) (Edited)

Kewl. I just knew Jay Ward was tied into this somehow.

Ferret Mike posted on 2009-10-23 16:36:20 ET (1 image) Reply Trace Private Reply

#23. To: Ferret Mike, IDontThinkSo, Mekons5, Robin, *Wingnuts* (#22)

This is a new declaration of Lucas Daniel Smith. On youtube he has claimed it is his.

While he claims it was filed, I have seen no evidence that it was filed with the court. It may, or may not, be a filed declaration.

Brain bleach is provided for readers who need aftercare.

Lucas Daniel Smith - Alleged New Declaration of 10-12-2009

nolu chan posted on 2009-10-23 17:50:40 ET (2 images) Reply Trace Private Reply

#24. To: nolu chan (#23)

That was an incredibly interesting read. Amusing, too. He's got spiders in his brain, but fewer than Orly has. I'm chuckling, thinking about what the judge is going to think about this...um, flaming bag of dog poop.

Look at the Controller, a Nazi with a social degree

Mekons5 posted on 2009-10-23 19:58:23 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

#25. To: nolu chan (#23)

Brain bleach is provided for readers who need aftercare.

lol

I prefer a little humor or some good music - or both!

Violence is the first refuge of the incompetent. ~Issac Asimov

Robin posted on 2009-10-23 20:04:46 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

#26. To: Robin (#25)

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Music's cool, but I like a wee bit more drama.

Ferret Mike posted on 2009-10-23 20:27:20 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

#27. To: Ferret Mike (#26)

lol - so much drama! At least he's a good listener.

Violence is the first refuge of the incompetent. ~Issac Asimov

Robin posted on 2009-10-23 20:31:53 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

#28. To: Mekons5 (#24)

I'm chuckling, thinking about what the judge is going to think about this...um, flaming bag of dog poop.

Probably nothing... this an ex-parte flaming bag of dog poop from a non-party.

nolu chan posted on 2009-10-23 21:13:13 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

#29. To: nolu chan (#28) (Edited)

Orly Taitz, Master attorney

Ferret Mike posted on 2009-10-23 21:26:22 ET (2 images) Reply Trace Private Reply

#30. To: Ferret Mike, IDontThinkSo, Mekons5, Robin, *Wingnuts* (#29)

Ramping up the crazy in Idaho...

charleslincoln3.wordpress...argo-class-action-update/

Wells Fargo Class Action Update
October 23, 2009 · 2 Comments

Charles Lincoln at Tierra Limpia

Dr. Orly Taitz, Esquire, has agreed to serve as counsel for our Class Action Lawsuit against Wells Fargo in the United States District Court for the District of Idaho, and she has also signed on as counsel in Palm Beach, Florida (United States District Court for the Southern District of Florida) against U.S. Bank, a suit which also questions the bias, independence, and/or partiality or control of the Florida state judiciary. These two suits will now become the focal point of our attentions.

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nolu chan posted on 2009-10-24 0:11:47 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

#31. To: nolu chan (#30)

There is some merit to the "show us the note" thing. Turning it into a class action suit is as stupid as you can get, because the dickheads at the banks WILL find the notes. It's only if you surprise them that it works. Those notes exist.

Look at the Controller, a Nazi with a social degree

Mekons5 posted on 2009-10-24 0:20:59 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

#32. To: nolu chan (#30)

Dr. Orly Taitz, Esquire, has agreed to serve as counsel

LOL!!!!! What idiot would go near her now!?!?

Violence is the first refuge of the incompetent. ~Issac Asimov

Robin posted on 2009-10-24 9:23:14 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

#33. To: Robin (#32)

LOL!!!!! What idiot would go near her now!?!?

Probably nobody. Doc 18 and 19 are from yesterday.

Doc 18 is Orly's application to be substitute counsel (or whatever one may call this).

Doc 19 is Wells Fargo Objection. Exhibit A is a copy of the 43 page Order of Judge Land.

At 2-3:

Plaintiff now files a Motion for Continuance of the hearing currently set for October 27, 2009, and asks for two additional items of relief: (a) an additional extension of time to October 30, 2009 in which to file a reply memorandum; and (b) an "at least temporary" waiver of the requirement that she obtain local counsel to be admitted pro hac vice consistent with the Court's Local Rules.
Wells Fargo objects to Plaintiffs request for a continuance on the basis that Plaintiff has already obtained a significant delay in the time ordinarily allowed to seek a temporary restraining order, and that any further delay will only result in unwarranted costs and expenses incurred by Wells Fargo. Wells Fargo additionally objects to any request that Plaintiff s proposed counsel be excused from the Local Rule's requirement of obtaining local counsel for admission pro hac vice on the basis that any such waiver is also likely to increase the costs of defense of this frivolous motion and action.

At 4-5

WELLS FARGO OBJECTS TO ANY WAIVER OF LOCAL RULES FOR PRO HAC VICE ADMISSION
The admission of a lawyer pro hac vice is governed by the Court's Local Rules, and it is the rare case where a litigant would ordinarily inject itself into the Court's consideration of a request to modify the application of those Local Rules. Given the history of Ms. Taitz in appearing pro hac vice in other actions, however, Wells Fargo must object to any waiver of this Court's Local Rules requirement that she obtain local counsel as a condition of pro hac vice admission.
The Court's Local Rule on pro hac vice admission, by requiring local counsel, serves several admirable purposes. Not the least of these is a local contact for service, but also a local contact who is familiar with filing procedures, Local Rules, and protocol. All of these things serve to allow the efficient administration of a case, and accordingly minimize the cost of litigation. The participation of local counsel also tends to moderate the behavior of those who
would otherwise feel little concern for the consequences of frivolous claims or conduct if they knew they would not be soon appearing again in a local venue. When the Court is satisfied that a counsel admitted pro hac vice is capable of practicing without such local advice and counsel, the rule requiring appearance by local counsel at all hearings can certainly be waived.
Ms. Taitz has a troubled history of pro hac vice appearances. She was recently sanctioned by Judge Clay D. Land of the Middle District of Georgia (Columbus Division) and fined $20,000 for her conduct in a case where she was admitted pro hac vice and received a waiver of the local counsel requirement. A true and correct copy of this decision is attached to the Affidavit of Kenneth C. Howell Regarding Motion for Continuance, filed concurrently herewith.
Judge Land specifically rued the waiver of local counsel requirement, noting that it "was a mistake as counsel abused her pro hac vice privileges." See Affidavit of Kenneth C. Howell Regarding Motion for Continuance, Exhibit A at p. 7-8. Ms. Taitz's abuse of her pro hac vice privileges in the case before Judge Land in Georgia foreshadow her expected abuse in this action given the meritless claims advanced by Plaintiff. This is particularly true with respect to the present Motion for a TRO given that the relief requested is moot, and given that Plaintiff is unable to meet the standards for granting a TRO.
Any granting of a waiver of the Local Rules' requirements of local counsel is likely to have the direct effect on Wells Fargo of a substantial increase in the cost of defense of this action, and will result in additional delay in the resolution of this action. Given that Plaintiff's prospective counsel is already unable to attend to this long-scheduled hearing, it is reasonable to expect that her involvement in "other high-profile litigation" will cause additional delays - and additional cost to Wells Fargo -- throughout the course of this litigation.

nolu chan posted on 2009-10-24 16:23:28 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

#34. To: Mekons5 (#31)

There is some merit to the "show us the note" thing.

Yeah... agreed. But this appears that you sign over your property to Charles Lincoln so he can defend it from foreclosure pro se. In the meantime, he sort of makes believe he owns it and can live in it or rent it out until they evict him and auction or sell your house.

Hal Kuder signed over his property to Lincoln for $10. Of course, until the mortgage is paid, the bank retains the title and I rather doubt Kuder can absolve his obligations by transferring those obligations to Charles Lincoln.

nolu chan posted on 2009-10-24 16:39:27 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

#35. To: nolu chan (#34)

Hal Kuder signed over his property to Lincoln for $10. Of course, until the mortgage is paid, the bank retains the title and I rather doubt Kuder can absolve his obligations by transferring those obligations to Charles Lincoln.

He absolutely can't. I didn't realize that Lincoln was working this way. Sounds like a scam.

Look at the Controller, a Nazi with a social degree

Mekons5 posted on 2009-10-24 18:38:09 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

#36. To: Mekons5 (#35)

I didn't realize that Lincoln was working this way. Sounds like a scam.

It sure do.

The Complaint [Doc #1] pretty much describes it. Exhibit A at page 16 shows the agreement where the property is exchanged for $10.

DOC 01 - Lincoln v Northwest et al - COMPLAINT 09-01-2009

nolu chan posted on 2009-10-24 19:40:24 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

#37. To: nolu chan (#36)

It looks like Orly - Lincoln have opened the West Coast branch of the Russian Mafia.

Palin-Bachmann, the All Wingnut Ticket for 2012

IDontThinkSo posted on 2009-10-24 19:50:16 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

#38. To: nolu chan (#36)

An interesting note from NYT

surprising smackdown occurred on Oct. 9 in federal bankruptcy court in the Southern District of New York. Ruling that a lender, PHH Mortgage, hadn’t proved its claim to a delinquent borrower’s home in White Plains, Judge Robert D. Drain wiped out a $461,263 mortgage debt on the property. That’s right: the mortgage debt disappeared, via a court order.

So the ruling may put a new dynamic in play in the foreclosure mess: If the lender can’t come forward with proof of ownership, and judges don’t look kindly on that, then borrowers may have a stronger hand to play in court and, apparently, may even be able to stay in their homes mortgage-free.

The reason that notes have gone missing is the huge mass of mortgage securitizations that occurred during the housing boom. Securitizations allowed for large pools of bank loans to be bundled and sold to legions of investors, but some of the nuts and bolts of the mortgage game — notes, for example — were never adequately tracked or recorded during the boom. In some cases, that means nobody truly knows who owns what.

Look at the Controller, a Nazi with a social degree

Mekons5 posted on 2009-10-24 20:37:25 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

#39. To: IDontThinkSo (#37)

the goofy branch - I read over 10 years ago that bodies were turning up in mid-CA lakes, compliments of the Russian mob.

Violence is the first refuge of the incompetent. ~Issac Asimov

Robin posted on 2009-10-24 20:38:35 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

#40. To: Robin, Mekons5, IDontThinkSo (#39)

The first case of Lincoln v. Northwest shows a trick I had not seen before. Lincoln paid the filing fee, then stopped payment on the check, engaged in a paper drill for over two months, and finally let the case be dismissed for non-payment of the filing fee.

I guess the Idaho District Court has already had a Charles Lincoln experience.

DOCKET REPORT Lincoln v. Northwest Trustee Services et al, 1-09-cv-00163 filed 4/09/2009 dismissed 6/30/2009.

On 6/4/2009, DOC 19 shows that Lincoln paid the filing fee on 4/9/2009, and shows that he put a stop payment on the check. Thus, DOC 19 ordered him to pay the $350 filing fee and a $45 stop payment fee (or file to proceed in forma pauperis) or the case would be dismissed.

On 6/29/2009, DOC 23 shows the Court dismissed for failure to pay the filing fee.

nolu chan posted on 2009-10-25 1:15:11 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

#41. To: Robin, Mekons5, IDontThinkSo (#40)

I have scribd and RECAPed the Docket Report and all documents for the Florida case of Rivernider (and Lincoln) v. U.S. Bank National Association.

DOCKET REPORT

DOC 12 is an ORDER TO SHOW CAUSE by 10/23/2009 why the case should not be dismissed.

DOC 13 is a MOTION TO SUBSTITUTE COUNSEL and MOTION for Additional Time to Respond to Motion to Dismiss by Orly Taitz on 10/22/2009. "The undersigned is in search of local counsel but asks that the Court at least temporarily waive its requirement."

nolu chan posted on 2009-10-25 1:16:14 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

#42. To: nolu chan (#40)

Lincoln paid the filing fee, then stopped payment on the check, engaged in a paper drill for over two months, and finally let the case be dismissed for non-payment of the filing fee.

this guy seems to know quite a few odd angles in the court system

Violence is the first refuge of the incompetent. ~Issac Asimov

Robin posted on 2009-10-25 1:16:47 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

#43. To: Robin, Mekons5, IDontThinkSo, *Wingnuts* (#42)

DOC 88-1 Keyes v Obama - Request for Judicial Notice of 2004 AP Newswire and Limited Discovery

DOC 88-2 Keyes v Obama - Exhibit A - AP Newswire Re Obama Kenyan Born

BELOW is a copy of DOC 88-2 with the sidebar linked pages appended. I used the PDF as submitted to the Court by Orly and appended the links using Adobe Acrobat. The page purported archived on June 27, 2004 shows links to pages from future dates.

DOC 88-2 Keyes v Obama - Exhibit A - With Sidebar Links Appended by nolu chan

Exhibit A purports to be an article of June 27, 2004.

The source link for the Exhibit A page is:
http://www.eaststandard.net/headlines/news26060403.htm

Go to the source page, right click, select "view page source" and near the end you find this:

// FILE ARCHIVED ON 20040627142700 AND RETRIEVED FROM THE
// INTERNET ARCHIVE ON 20091025180232.
// JAVASCRIPT APPENDED BY WAYBACK MACHINE, COPYRIGHT INTERNET ARCHIVE.
// ALL OTHER CONTENT MAY ALSO BE PROTECTED BY COPYRIGHT (17 U.S.C. // SECTION 108(a)(3)).

This page, purportedly archived on June 27, 2004 contains links to pages in the future.

Also see the Doug Mataconis article debunking this fraud:

The New Birther Fantasy: Kenya Newspaper Called Obama “Kenyan Born” Back In 2004
by Doug Mataconis @ 5:14 pm on October 16, 2009.
The birthers are chasing another red herring in the shape of a June 2004 article from a newspaper in Kenya that referred then Illinois State Senator as “Kenyan born:”
[...]
Now, the birthers are claiming in their various online forums that this is an Associated Press article based on the initials AP appearing at the bottom of the article. However, a search of the Associated Press archives for an articles containing the words “Kenyan” and “Obama” from any date prior to June 28, 2004 (the date after the article was published) reveals no articles at all.
Clearly, this was an article written by a writer for some paper in Kenya and not based on any credible news sources.
Try again, guys.

nolu chan posted on 2009-10-25 15:37:19 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

#44. To: nolu chan (#43)

The article is not even close to AP style, which for one thing would lead off with the city in which the event took place or where the article was written, if different, and would also have a byline. Just for starters.

That anyone would submit an unsourced, non-byline article from an obscure African newspaper as evidence is just silly.

What probably happened is a local African writer rewrote an AP story so they wouldn't have to pay AP. He or she evidently knew Obama's father was born in Kenya and may have just assumed that Obama was too. It was clearly thrown in there to give the story local interest.

Look at the Controller, a Nazi with a social degree

Mekons5 posted on 2009-10-25 16:07:30 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

#45. To: Mekons5 (#44)

That anyone would submit an unsourced, non-byline article from an obscure African newspaper as evidence is just silly.

The whole thing is unpersuasive.

It is not from the newspaper source directly but from an archive on the Wayback Machine. The submitted page source code claims it was archived on June 27, 2004. The page links go to pages months in the future. It appears the page itself cannot be authentic.

Doug Mataconis confirmed that there was no such article by AP.

They misspell Obama's first name as "Barrack." (first line and under pic)

The pic is nh-obama.jpg - possibly from New Hampshire and not Chicago 2004.

The article and the pic are unaccredited.

They use "US Senate" which violates AP style which would be "U.S. Senate."

nolu chan posted on 2009-10-25 17:03:58 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

#46. To: nolu chan, Mekons5 (#43)

by Doug Mataconis @ 5:14 pm on October 16, 2009.
The birthers are chasing another red herring in the shape of a June 2004 article from a newspaper in Kenya that referred then Illinois State Senator as “Kenyan born:”

Violence is the first refuge of the incompetent. ~Issac Asimov

Robin posted on 2009-10-25 17:07:24 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

#47. To: Robin, Mekons5 (#46)

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthers/ap.asp

SNOPES does a great debunking here.

nolu chan posted on 2009-10-25 17:18:01 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

#48. To: Robin (#46)

I'm waiting for the first birfer to scream; "I WON'T BELIEVE HE WAS BORN IN HAWAII UNTIL THEY FIND HIS PLACENTA IN HAWAII AND TEST IT FOR DNA!"

It should happen any day seeing how thin their evidence is getting.

Ferret Mike posted on 2009-10-25 19:25:57 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

#49. To: nolu chan (#47)

I forgot about snopes, I'll add it to the drop down list.

"People who are anxious to bring on war don’t know what they are bargaining for; they don’t see all the horrors that must accompany such an event." ~General Stonewall Jackson

Robin posted on 2009-10-25 19:36:55 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

#50. To: nolu chan (#43)

Here's another one for Orly to submit. I hope she sees it.

Palin-Bachmann, the All Wingnut Ticket for 2012

IDontThinkSo posted on 2009-10-25 20:50:33 ET (1 image) Reply Trace Private Reply

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