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Title: Dr. Orly, Keyes et al v. Obama et al - Reality Check
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Published: Jun 25, 2009
Author: nolu chan
Post Date: 2009-06-25 07:07:24 by nolu chan
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Dr. Orly, Keyes et al v. Obama et al - Reality Check

by nolu chan
June 25, 2009

It can be seen at Dr. Orly's blog that she filed the complaint as:

http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/blog1/?p=2197

Alan Keyes, PhD., Wiley S. Drake, and Markham Robinson,
Plaintiffs

v.

Barack H. Obama, a/k/a Barack H. Obama, II a/k/a Barry Obama, a/k/a Barry Soetoro; Condoleeza Rice, in her capacity as Secretary of State; Robert Mueller, in his capacity as Director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation; and Michael W. Hager, in his capacity as Acting Director, Office of Personnel Management; and DOES 1-100
Defendants

The COMPLAINT was filed on 1/20/2009. Obama became President at noon on 1/20/2009, per the 20th Amendment.

On 5/12/2009 the Court issued an Order to Show Cause re Dismissal for Lack of Prosecution, checking a form line that read, "this Court has not received a responsive pleading from, or a proof of service for, various defendants."

The summonses were required to be served within 120 days of the complaint being filed, or May 20th. No attempt was ever made to serve anyone other than Obama in any capacity. In a filing of 6/14/2009, Dr. Orly moved to drop all defendants other than Barack H. Obama. That is more than three weeks after she exceeded the time to serve three named defendants, and more than a month after the Court ordered her to show cause regarding its non-receipt of proof of service for "various defendants."

On 5/18/2009 Dr. Orly filed the first "Proof of Service" by Mary Ann McKiernan dated 5/17/2009. Mary Ann McKiernan filled in the blanks to read, "I served the summons on [Mail Clerk], who is designated by law to accept service of process on behalf of [Department of Justice, Mail Room Clerk] on [February 10, 2009]".

Note that she documented she was serving on some unidentified individual whom she thought to be designated by law to accept service of process on behalf of the Department of Justice. The Department of Justice mail clerk is not designated by law to accept service for citizen Obama.

On 5/27/2009 the Court issued an Order to Show Cause re Dismissal for Lack of Prosecution.

On 5/27/2009 Dr. Orly submitted another Motion for Default, with something styled a "General Affidavit" of Mary Ann McKiernan dated 5/20/2009. This no longer states she was trying to serve someone authorized to accept for the Department of Justice. Dr. Orly did not address the named defendants other than Obama.

On 6/2/2009 Dr. Orly filed an Amended Motion for Default.

On 6/2/2009 Dr. Orly filed a Second Amended Motion for Default. This contained something styled a "General Affidavit" of Mary Ann McKiernan dated 6/2/2009. It appears identical in content to the previous "General Affidavit" but bears a new date, new signature, and different notary public.

On 6/10/2009 the Court issued a Notice of Deficiency stating the "Clerk cannot enter the requested Default of Barack H. Obama" because "Proof of Service is lacking required information."

On 6/11/2009 Dr. Orly filed a Motion for Clarification.

On 6/12/2009 the Court filed an Order to Show Cause, and Finding as Moot Plaintiffs' Motion for Clarification. It stated in part, "The Court is also in receipt of a Motion for Clarification... filed by plaintiffs on June 11, 2009, in which they argue that service had been effected by and through Rule 4(e) of the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure. Plaintiffs are directed to Rule 4(i), which addresses service upon the United States and its agencies, corporation, officers or employees."

On 6/14/2009 Dr. Orly filed a Motion for Reconsideration... and Voluntary Dismissal Pursuant to Rule 41(A)(1) of Counts Two and Three (and All Other Defendants Besides Barack H. Obama in Default). Dr. Orly finally remembers her additional named defendants whom she never served and states, "Defendant Barack H. Obama, [] is the only Defendant actually served within the first 120 days of filing this complaint...." Actually, he was not served either.

On 6/22/2009 the Court issued an Order Setting Hearing on Motion for 7/13/2009 at 8:30 a.m. Per Court Order, the "Plaintiffs are directed to make every effort possible to ensure that all remaining defendants are aware of the hearing and provide documentation that the individual receiving service is authorized to accept on defendants' behalf."

Perhaps Judge Carter has a sense of humor. Will Dr. Orly effect the ordered notification of the July 13th hearing by dropping off a memo with a mail clerk at DOJ? How will Dr. Orly provide the requested documentation of who is authorized to receive service for Barack Obama, in his private capacity, without providing the Court with documentation that a mail clerk at DOJ is not among those so authorized?

In her June 14, 2009 Motion for Reconsideration, Dr. Orly visited the following pleasantries and endearments upon the Court: [excerpts]

Ironically enough, Plaintiffs do precisely contend that by serving the Mail Clerk of Department of Justice on February 10, 2009, as indisputably proved in the affidavit of Mary Ann McKiernan already on file with this court, Plaintiffs have satisfied both the requirements of Rule 4(e)(2)(c) [sic (C)] 4(i)(3). [at 3]

Plaintiffs are suing the Defendant Barack H. Obama for a declaratory judgment concerning his qualifications to assume the title and assume the office of President of the United States, and in particular regarding his duty to disclose issues concerning his pre-Inauguration life which either qualified or disqualified him from being Inaugurated. So there is no justification for requiring service of the United States under Rule (4)(i)(3). [at 3]

Plaintiffs respectfully submit that this Court's order finding or at least strongly suggesting that 4(e) service is insufficient, and requiring 4(i) service, regarding the subject matter of this lawsuit as against the sole served Defendant Barack H. Obama, is manifestly erroneous and Plaintiffs accordingly request that the Court reconsider its motion. [sic - Order] [at 4]

Why have a rule of default, at all, why make a distinction between private and U.S. Governmental parties as between 4(e) and 4(i) at all within the Federal Rules, if the face of a complaint, and the status of the parties at the time of filing, cannot be used to judge compliance with such a rule which might apply in this case to guarantee victory to the Plaintiff? [at 6]

It seems to the Plaintiffs unfair and unjust that a Judge could merely set aside a party's default on a whim, for no good legal or equitable reason, based on a change in a party's status, but not the cause of action against him, between filing and service of suit? In fact of coursethe Court has NOT FORMALLY ACTED to set aside Barack H. Obama's default, because the Clerk has not yet even recorded the default, but by its order of June 12, 2009, the Court has "merely" ordered the Plaintiff to start litigation all over again, as if the past six months had never happened or were no more important than six grains of tidal sand in the surfs at Malibu. [at 6]

Mary Ann McKiernan effected service of process on De Facto President Barack H. Obama through the Department of Justice. [at 7]

Plaintiffs believe and submit that the need for clarification is not at all moot. [at 9]

It appears Dr. Orly may have a Hemenway moment, but perhaps more so. Telling the judge his order is manifestly erroneous, that he acted unfairly and unjustly on a whim, for no good legal reason, is one way to get the judge's attention. On July 13th, I expect the judge will get Dr. Orly's attention.

- - -

WHEN ALL ELSE FAILS, READ THE INSTRUCTIONS
~ Allen's Axiom

Federal Rules of Civil Procedure apply. Rule 4, covers a summons and states that "The plaintiff is responsible for having the summons and complaint served within the time allowed by Rule 4(m) and must furnish the necessary copies to the person who makes service." Rule 4(m) states "If a defendant is not served within 120 days after the complaint is filed, the court — on motion or on its own after notice to the plaintiff — must dismiss the action without prejudice against that defendant or order that service be made within a specified time."

A person served as an private individual has 20 days to respond. [Rule 12(a)(1)(A)(i)] A government officer sued individually has 60 days to respond. [Rule 12(a)(3)] On the summons obtained by Dr. Orly the blank is filled in as 60 days, not 20. On the summons form itself is printed, "[Use 60 days if the defendant is the United States or a United States agency, or is an officer or employee of the United States. Allowed 60 days by Rule 12(a)(3).]"

Per Dr. Orly, "Plaintiff's do precisely contend that by serving the Mail Clerk of Department of Justice on February 10, 2009, as indisputably proved in the affidavit of Mary Ann McKiernan already on file with this court, Plaintiffs have satisfied both the requirements of Rule 4(e)(2)(c) [and] 4(i)(3)."

Reality contends otherwise.

Rule 4(i)(3) required that Dr. Orly "deliver a copy of the summons and of the complaint to the United States attorney for the district where the action is brought — or to an assistant United States attorney or clerical employee whom the United States attorney designates in a writing filed with the court clerk.

The case was brought in Orange County, California. The DOJ is not in California. The mail clerk at the DOJ has not been designated in a writing with the court clerk of the U.S. District Court for the Central District of California to accept service for the U.S. Attorney for said district. There is no evidence that the unidentified mail clerk has been designated in writing by anyone to anyone to accept service for anyone.

Ms. McKiernan's unsupported statement that she effected delivery to an unidentified person, not known to her as a mail clerk, indisputably proves there is no legal proof of valid service, and not even proof of service on a mail clerk not authorized to accept service.

Rule 4(e)(2)(C) for individuals requires, "delivering a copy of each [summons and complaint] to an agent authorized by appointment or by law to receive service of process." Dr. Orly asserts delivery to an agent authorized by law to receive service of process. She cites no law which authorizes the unidentified mail clerk to accept service of process on behalf on Barack Obama as an individual private citizen.

Rule 4(e) states

(e) Serving an Individual Within a Judicial District of the United States.

Unless federal law provides otherwise, an individual — other than a minor, an incompetent person, or a person whose waiver has been filed — may be served in a judicial district of the United States by:

(1) following state law for serving a summons in an action brought in courts of general jurisdiction in the state where the district court is located or where service is made; or

(2) doing any of the following:

(A) delivering a copy of the summons and of the complaint to the individual personally;

(B) leaving a copy of each at the individual’s dwelling or usual place of abode with someone of suitable age and discretion who resides there; or

(C) delivering a copy of each to an agent authorized by appointment or by law to receive service of process.

Rule 4(i) states:

(i) Serving the United States and Its Agencies, Corporations, Officers, or Employees.

(1) United States.

To serve the United States, a party must:

(A)

(i) deliver a copy of the summons and of the complaint to the United States attorney for the district where the action is brought — or to an assistant United States attorney or clerical employee whom the United States attorney designates in a writing filed with the court clerk — or

(ii) send a copy of each by registered or certified mail to the civil-process clerk at the United States attorney’s office;

(B) send a copy of each by registered or certified mail to the Attorney General of the United States at Washington, D.C.; and

(C) if the action challenges an order of a nonparty agency or officer of the United States, send a copy of each by registered or certified mail to the agency or officer.

[...]

(3) Officer or Employee Sued Individually.

To serve a United States officer or employee sued in an individual capacity for an act or omission occurring in connection with duties performed on the United States’ behalf (whether or not the officer or employee is also sued in an official capacity), a party must serve the United States and also serve the officer or employee under Rule 4(e), (f), or (g).

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#1. To: nolu chan (#0)

From a newspaper in conservative Orange county where Orly lives....(prophets are never appreciated at home):

Meet Orly Taitz, Queen Bee of People Obsessed With Barack Obama's Birth Certificate

Robin  posted on  2009-06-25   9:50:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: IDontThinkSo, Mekons5, Robin, *Wingnuts* (#0)

Related thread: Government weighs in on Keyes lawsuit (Orly Flames out Again)

Dr. Nitrous is scheduled to appear in court Monday morning at 8:30 a.m. to defend her absurd defence of her failed attempt to serve her lawsuit in accordance with the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure. On July 7, 2009 the United States Attorney weighed in with a Statement of Interest encapsulating precisely why O Rly will get a good spanking from the judge.

Case 8:09-cv-00082-DOC-AN -- Document 18 -- Filed 07/07/2009 -- Page 1 of 5

THOMAS P. O'BRIEN
United States Attorney

LEON W. WEIDMAN
Assistant United States Attorney
Chief, Civil Division

ROGER E. WEST (State Bar No. 58609)
Assistant United States Attorney
First Assistant Chief, Civil Division

DAVID A. DeJUTE (State Bar No. 153527)
Assistant United States Attorney

Room 7516, Federal Building
300 North Los Angeles Street
Los Angeles, California 90012
Telephone: (213) 894-2461/2574
Facsimile: (213) 894-7819
Email: roger.west4@usdoj.gov
Email: david.dejute@usdoj.gov

Attorneys for the United States

UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT
FOR THE CENTRAL DISTRICT OF CALIFORNIA
SOUTHERN DIVISION

ALAN KEYES, Ph.D., WILLEY S. DRAKE, AND MARKHAM ROBINSON,
Plaintiffs,

v.

BARACK H. OBAMA, et al.,
Defendants.

No. SACV 09-00082 DOC (Anx)

DATE: July 13, 2009
TIME: 8:30 a.m.
CTRM: 9D

Hon. David O. Carter

STATEMENT OF INTEREST OF

THE UNITED STATES

Case 8:09-cv-00082-DOC-AN -- Document 18 -- Filed 07/07/2009 -- Page 2 of 5

COMES NOW the United States, pursuant to 28 U.S.C. § 517, by and through its undersigned counsel, and respectfully files this Statement of Interest:

I.

Plaintiffs Are Required To Comply With The Service Provisions
Contained In Rule 4(i) Of The Federal Rules Of Civil Procedure

While the Complaint is not a model of clear pleading, when distilled to its essence, it appears that this case seeks a judgment declaring whether Barack H. Obama is eligible to be President of the United States. See, e.g., 51 36 and 37 of the Complaint. As such, it is indisputable that this case constitutes an action against an "Officer of the United States." Fed.R.Civ.P. 4(i). It follows ineluctably, therefore, that service must be effected pursuant to the provisions of Rule 4(i) of the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure.

II.

The Requirements For Service Of Process Provided In Rule 4(i)
Have Not been Met

Plaintiffs cannot allege that they have complied with the service requirements of Rule 4(i). As Plaintiffs acknowledge, Rule 4(i) requires, among other things, that "a party must serve the United States and also serve the officer or employee under Rule 4 (e), (f), or (g)." See Plaintiffs' Motion for Reconsideration, 2, quoting Rule 4(i)(3)(emphasis added). In other words, to effect proper service a party must serve both the officer or employee and the United States. In order to properly serve the United States, however, a party must serve the United States Attorney for the District in which the suit is pending. See Fed.R.Civ.P.

Case 8:09-cv-00082-DOC-AN -- Document 18 -- Filed 07/07/2009 -- Page 3 of 5

4(i)(1)(A)(i) and (ii). Among other defects, Plaintiffs have never served the Office of the United States Attorney for the Central District of California as required by Rule 4(i). On this ground alone the Court should find that the service of process requirements under the Federal Rules have not been met.

III.

Even Assuming, Arguendo, That Plaintiffs Were Only Required To
Comply With The Service Requirements Of Rule 4(e),
They Have Not Done So

Throughout their moving papers, Plaintiffs assert that, notwithstanding the fact that they are contesting the eligibility of President Obama under Article II, they are not suing President Obama in his official capacity, but, rather, merely as an individual. From this, Plaintiffs further assert that they are, therefore, required only to comply with the service requirements contained in Rule 4(e) of the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure. Plaintiffs finally assert in this regard that they have complied specifically with Rule 4(e)(2)(C).

In support of their assertion that they have complied with Rule 4 (e) (2) (C), Plaintiffs proffer the "General Affidavit" of Mary Ann McKiernan. In this document, which Plaintiffs attach to their Motion, Ms. McKierman states that on February 10, 2009, she attempted to serve "a Pleading" (not further identified) to President Obama at the White House. She further states that she gave the envelope with "the Pleading" to a Secret Service Agent at a gate just outside the White House. She thereafter avers that the Secret Service Agents told her that she could not serve the papers there. She states that she then called the White House, and was

Case 8:09-cv-00082-DOC-AN -- Document 18 -- Filed 07/07/2009 -- Page 4 of 5

informed by White House legal counsel that she needed to serve the papers "to the Department of Justice." Thereafter, she alleges that she went to the Department of Justice, and ultimately served the papers upon a "male Mail Clerk."

The facts set forth in Ms. McKiernan's "General Affidavit" constitute the sole basis for Plaintiffs' contention that they have properly served President Obama, in his private capacity, with the Summons and Complaint herein under Rule 4(e) (2) (C) .

Even assuming, arguendo, that only Rule 4(e) applied here, Plaintiffs have not shown, nor can they show, that a mail clerk at the Department of Justice to whom Ms. Mckiernan gave some unspecified "Pleading" was authorized, by appointment or by law, to receive service of process on behalf of Barack H. Obama in lawsuits where he was sued in his private, individual capacity. Indeed, it strains credulity past the breaking point to conclude that an otherwise unidentified mail clerk in the Department of Justice would have been authorized through appointment by Defendant Obama, or by law, to receive service of process on Defendant Obama's behalf in cases where he was sued only in his private, individual capacity.

Based upon the foregoing, it is clear that, even assuming for purposes of argument that only Rule 4(e) applied to this case, the provisions of that Rule have not been met.

Case 8:09-cv-00082-DOC-AN -- Document 18 -- Filed 07/07/2009 -- Page 5 of 5

IV.

Plaintiffs' Motion Is Without Merit And Should Be
Denied Forthwith

As the foregoing discussion demonstrates, Plaintiffs' Motion for Reconsideration is without merit factually, legally or logically, and it should be denied forthwith. Morever, the questions presented by the Motion are so frivolous and insubstantial that they do not merit an interlocutory appeal pursuant to 28 U.S.C. § 1292.

V.

Conclusion

Accordingly, it is submitted that Plaintiffs' Motion for Reconsideration Or In The Alternative To Certify Question For Appeal under 28 U.S.C. § 1292 is completely without merit, and should be denied.

DATED: July 7, 2009

Respectfully submitted,
THOMAS P. O'BRIEN
United States Attorney

LEON WEIDMAN
Assistant United States Attorney
Chief, Civil Division

/S/
__________________________
ROGER E. WEST
Assistant United States Attorneys
First Assistant Chief, Civil Division

/S/
__________________________
DAVID A. DeJUTE
Assistant United States Attorneys
Attorneys for the United States

nolu chan  posted on  2009-07-10   16:43:34 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: nolu chan (#2)

As the foregoing discussion demonstrates, Plaintiffs' Motion for Reconsideration is without merit factually, legally or logically, and it should be denied forthwith. Morever, the questions presented by the Motion are so frivolous and insubstantial that they do not merit an interlocutory appeal pursuant to 28 U.S.C. § 1292.

I enjoy reading this bit.

Robin  posted on  2009-07-10   17:41:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Robin, IDontThinkSo, Mekons5 (#3)

The hearing is being held pursuant to a Court Order requiring Dr. Orly to show cause why her suit should not be dismissed due to deficiency of service. Her unserved suit will be tossed and she will be lucky to escape sanctions. Reading Bob Unruh at WND might make one believe it is for an Orly victory party.

www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=103523

BORN IN THE USA?
Eligibility claims attracting high-level interest
Joint Chiefs counsel, Justice Department now involved

Posted: July 09, 2009
11:50 pm Eastern

By Bob Unruh

Dr. Orly Taitz

California attorney Orly Taitz, who has pursued multiple legal challenges to Barack Obama's eligibility to be the president, is attracting high-level attention, with the Justice Department trying to add itself onto one of her cases and the legal counsel for the Joint Chiefs of Staff being assigned to review another issue.

Taitz has filed multiple legal actions around the country alleging Obama does not meet the constitutional requirements to occupy the Oval Office. One of her cases, filed against Obama as an individual for actions before he took office, is scheduled for a hearing in a California court Monday.

The hearing is on a request by Taitz for a default judgment, since she explains she notified the president of the action weeks ago, and his lawyers failed to respond.

[snip]

nolu chan  posted on  2009-07-10   19:57:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Robin, Mekons5, IDontThinkSo (#3)

In the continuing onslaught of stupid, Dr. Orly found a civilian reservist, not on active duty, to lend his name to another legal crap sandwich served up to a court.

www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=103626

BORN IN THE USA?
U.S. officer demands answer: Is Army 'corps of chattel slaves?"
Files federal court challenge over Obama's refusal to prove eligibility
Posted: July 10, 2009
8:26 pm Eastern

By Bob Unruh

Dr. Orly Taitz

A U.S. Army Reserve major from Florida with orders to report for deployment to Afghanistan within days has filed a court demand to be classified as a "conscientious objector" because without proof of the commander-in-chief's eligibility for office, the entire army "becomes merely a corps of chattel slaves under the illegitimate control of a private citizen."

A hearing on the questions raised by Maj. Stefan Frederick Cook, an engineer who told WND he wants to serve his country in Afghanistan, already has been scheduled for July 16 at 9:30 a.m., according to California attorney Orly Taitz, who is handling the claim.

[...]

"Plaintiff files this suit to clarify how he can both obey all lawful orders and avoid dereliction of his duties so as to escape court-martial under the UCMJ if he does NOT question the legality of the orders he has received. Plaintiff seeks to avoid not only court-martial in this country, but also treatment as a war-criminal or terrorist, not eligible even for protection under the Geneva Convention, if he were found to be a merely mercenary soldier in a private army of slaves, 'owned' or controlled by an unconstitutional and therefore illegal commander, if he does not ask the question: 'is this order legal?'" the case pleading states.

[snip]

nolu chan  posted on  2009-07-10   19:58:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: nolu chan (#4)

The hearing is on a request by Taitz for a default judgment, since she explains she notified the president of the action weeks ago, and his lawyers failed to respond.

what?

Robin  posted on  2009-07-10   20:12:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: nolu chan (#5)

because without proof of the commander-in-chief's eligibility for office, the entire army "becomes merely a corps of chattel slaves under the illegitimate control of a private citizen."

omg

Robin  posted on  2009-07-10   20:12:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Robin (#6)

what?

In Birfastan, dumping some unidentified paper off with an unidentified alleged mail clerk at DOJ is the same thing as proper service to someone legally authorized to accept service for President Obama in his non-official individual capacity. Dr. Nitrous has rendered her professional legal opinion. Monday, the judge will render the court's official opinion of that notion.

WND will report the outrage.

nolu chan  posted on  2009-07-10   20:25:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: All, *Wingnuts* (#0)

Dr. Orly puked up her list of addresses for Obama again and filed it with the court today - 7/15/2009.

I just thought I would check out a few of her well-researched addresses and help a sister out.

www.orlytaitzesq.com/blog1/?p=3117

First amended Complaint Keyes et al v Obama et al

Miscellaneous Filings (Other Documents)

8:09-cv-00082-DOC-AN Keyes et al v. Obama et al

[...]

= = = = =

4. Defendants Barack (aka “Barak”?) and Michael Obama appear on public records retrieved from Lexis-Nexis and other sources to have listed as permanent or part-time residents of the State of California, Los Angeles and Orange Counties, with fairly recent and publically recorded residences and/or offices at the following addresses within the Central District of California:

(1)

OBAMA, BARAK
1619 S BENTLEY AVE
LOS ANGELES CA 90025-3586

- - -

www.google.com/#hl=en&q=1...-3586&aqi=&fp=KxYPMM6r3XA

[UCLA: Internal Medicine Suite]

= = = = =

(2)

OBAMA, BARAK
1009 DIGITAL HWY
LOS ANGELES CA 90045

- - -

[Non-existent address - the "digital highway" - get it?]

= = = = =

(3)

OBAMA, BARAK
1680 VIDEO DR
LOS ANGELES CA 90045

- - -

[Non-existent]

= = = = =

(4)

BH OBAMA
Box 67398
Los Angeles, CA 90067
Phone Unpublished
Job Title: Next President
Company: FrontPage magazine.com

- - -

[www.frontpagemag.com/read...spx?area=PRIVACY%20POLICY

If you have questions or concerns regarding this statement, please contact
: FrontPage Magazine Editors
PO Box 67398
Los Angeles, CA 90067
editors@frontpagemag.com]

This is the David Horowitz mag.

Barry lives in David Horowitz' post office box.

= = = = =

(5)

Michelle Obama
1818 N Vermont Ave
Los Angeles, CA 90027

- - -

maps.google.com/maps?f=q&...5VVeSvjLKI-gMuKS4OIO&cd=1

Skylight Books
1818 N Vermont Ave
Los Angeles, CA 90027

Cozy Indy Bookstore - lwmango - Feb 9, 2007
A small yet charming independent bookstore on the main drag of Los Feliz, sandwiched between a delicious Greek cafe and the Los Feliz 3 movie theatre. I love their publications section, as Skylight carries a variety of independent ...?

Michelle lives at a bookstore between a Greek cafe and a movie theater.

= = = = =

(6)

Michelle Obama
3654 Barham Blvd Q301
Los Angeles, CA 90068
Phone Unpublished
Company: ForGen Productions

- - -

www.qxiu.com/CA/683585-forgen_productions.htm

forgen productions
3654 barham blvd apt q301; los angeles,CA 90068
State:CA 90068
City: los angeles
Telephone:(213)851-6558
Fax:(213)851-2300

Michelle lives at forgen productions.

= = = = =

(7)

Michelle Obama
1045 N Armando St Ave G
Anaheim, CA 92806
Phone Unpublished
Company: Campusbug

orangecounty.citysearch.c.../anaheim_ca/medmania.html

Medmania
(714) 940-0022
1045 N Armando St Ste G
Anaheim, CA 92806 33.7879 -117.8699
Get Map & Directions »
CAMPUSBUG.COM

- - -

campusbug.com/

What is Campusbug?

Campusbug is the first social learning network. We provide educational and social networking tools to students all over the world. Now you can stay smart and connected.

The Michelle version of Where in the World is Carmen San Diego?

= = = = =

(8)

Michelle Obama
7035 Palm Dr
Rancho Cucamonga, CA 91701
Phone Unpublished
Company: Muslim World Today

- - -

www.google.com/#hl=en&q=7...91701&aqi=&fp=KxYPMM6r3XA

Muslim World Today
www.muslimworldtoday.com
7035 Palm Dr
Alta Loma, CA 91701-5326
(909) 484-5420

Michelle is at MWT under a printing press.

= = = = =

(9)

Michelle Obama
500 S Buena Vista St
Burbank, CA 91521
Phone Unpublished
Company: The Walt Disney Co.

- - -

pview.findlaw.com/view/1033254_1

Buena Vista Pictures Distribution

The Walt Disney Company
3900 W Alameda Avenue
#2400
Burbank, CA 91521-6760
Phone: (818) 567-5000
Fax: (818) 841-6216
Websites associated with this firm:www.disney.com
Attorneys
Name Title
Brown, Denise D. Counsel
Cunningham, Robert D.

Michelle is hiding out with Mickey and Minnie who went through a painful divorce. Michelle asked Mickey why he said Minnie was crazy. Mickey clarified that what he actually said was that Minnie was effin Goofy.

= = = = =

(10)

Michelle B. Obama
202 W 1st St
Los Angeles, CA 90012
Phone Unpublished
Company: Los Angeles Times

- - -

www.latimes.com/services/...actus,0,1439615.htmlstory

Los Angeles Times
Mailing Address:
202 W. 1st St.
Los Angeles, CA 90012
Phone: (213) 237-5000
Fax: (213) 237-7679

= = = = =

DR. ORLY ASSERTION BASED ON ABOVE "EVIDENCE"

There are, in fact, another 10 or more recorded addresses for the Obamas in Northern California, centered around San Francisco and the “Silicon Valley” area (San Mateo, San Rafael, etc.).

Another ten pieces of crap like the first ten pieces of crap.

nolu chan  posted on  2009-07-15   18:59:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: nolu chan (#9)

Jesus. WTF? I have a fairly odd name; there are only about 2,000 people in the U.S. with my last name. At least five of them have my first name too. I've even met one.

So Orly is saying I really live in Portland, Oregon AND Bridgeport, Conn. AND Indianapolis AND Minneapolis because people with my name live there?

What is her point here? No one sane denies Obama has lived in Hyde Park for many, many years. He's been something of a celebrity for over a decade.

I never seen so many women since the time they closed the factory down.

Mekons5  posted on  2009-07-15   19:06:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Mekons5, *Wingnuts* (#10)

So Orly is saying I really live in Portland, Oregon AND Bridgeport, Conn. AND Indianapolis AND Minneapolis because people with my name live there?

What is her point here?

Something like that, but what are the chances you or Barack or Michelle Obama live at the UCLA Internal Medicine suite, the LA times, the Disney office, or the Skylight Books store between a Greek cafe and a movie theater?

They ran the name Obama through one of those search engines that produces bogus information from garbage data. They made no effort to verify the information and presented to the court. Due diligence was ignored.

It is absurd on its face.

Her main point seems to be to play the idiots at her website for donations by pretending that the Obamas have dozens of addresses and social security numbers.

This judge has declined to dismiss on procedural grounds even though her service was lacking. Instead, he had her hand held all the way to the U.S. Attorney for the district so that she had to effect service. Now the U.S. has 60 days to respond. Then there will be a hearing where the judge can smack her over the head on the merits.

I have three versions of what happened in court Monday. I was waiting to get one from a known source with reliability.

There is the Orly version, a version relayed by a poster at Politijab, and one from the LA Times.

I doubt the judge said there will be a trial. There will be a hearing with the U.S. Attorney involved -- he was just served. The judge will act expeditously. It appears that Orly was huffing nitrous by the time she got around to her points 5 and 6.

= = = = =

AT DR. ORLY

www.orlytaitzesq.com/blog1/?p=3029

From reader Debra

Monday, July 13, 2009

vrwcgrapevine.blogspot.co...ase-will-be-heard-on.html

Obama eligibility case will be heard on merits!!

GREAT NEWS ALERT!!

Obama eligibility case will be heard on merits !!

Please distribute everywhere.

Just got off the phone with Orly Taitz, the attorney in Keyes v. Obama.

At the hearing today at the Federal Court building in Santa Ana, Judge Carter said the following:

1. There will be a trial.
2. It will be heard on the merits.
3. Nothing will be dismissed on proceedural issues.
4. The trial will be expeditious, and the judge pledged to give case priority.
5. Being a former Marine he realizes the importance of having a Constitutionally qualified POTUS/CINC.
6. Judge stated that if Obama isn’t Constitutionally qualifed he needs to leave the White House.

The DOJ will be involved with the case also…. I wasn’t clear if they would be trying to get to the truth or they would just be blindly representing Obama.

Orly will be adding members of the military from California as plaintiffs also.This is from what my interpretation of our conversation.Orly, asked me to disseminate this information out for her, she will be doing a posting later after she gets some sleep.

Please say a prayer of protection for Orly, her family, and Judge Carter. Please also pray that the truth will come to light regarding Obama and justice will be done.

Dr Orly Taitz, Esq site here!

WOOHOO!!!

Posted by (Debra3401) at 3:49 PM

- - - - -

AT POLITIJAB

www.politijab.com/phpBB3/...ic.php?f=24&t=1899#p46834

KEYES v. OBAMA - Act II

Postby realist » Mon Jul 13, 2009 2:12 pm

As requested by LM K, a repost for better readability (sorry, was just in a hurry to get it posted).

I assume it is identical to the original, so I will delete the original posting. i can always repost it if necessary.

HERE IS THE REPORT I WAS GIVEN BY BB FROM WAVEYDAVEY, WHO ATTENDED THE HEARING:

* * * * * * *

WAVEY DAVEY'S REPORT OF THE MOTION TO SHOW CAUSE HEARING IN KEYES V OBAMA 7/12/09

AS DICTATED TO ME BY BB

I received a call from wavey davey who attended today's hearing in the Central District of California. The outcome is not what we expected, but it is clear that the judge wants to position the case so that he can rule on the merits.

The judge had stern words for Orly a number of times, although he showed a lot of patience. She kept going off on her litany regarding the hundreds of Social Security numbers, and the judge let her bather on for a while. She also repeatedly asked the Court, "Why are the United States attorneys here? They have no standing, they're not allowed to be here," and the Court corrected her on that.

She wanted to talk about the merits of the case and the court said, "Today is not about merits, it is about procedure."

The court made clear, several times, that he wants this case to go forward on the merits but he did say that proper service had not been achieved on Obama. The U.S. Attorney's office was represented by DeJute. At first Mr. DeJute said that he was not authorized to accept service on behalf of the United States but it was determined that the U.S. Attorney for the district could accept service and so the court ordered Orly and DeJute to confer and to march downstairs together to properly serve the United States Attorney.

Charles Lincoln was present as a "law clerk."

Wavey davey described him as "short, dumpy, early middle-age, balding."

Orly continually argued with the judge. The judge responded, "I'm giving you a gift." When she continued to want to argue the merits and that she had achieved service the judge said, "I think you must be deaf. You aren't listening. You're stubborn."

The judge kept saying that he wanted "what gets this case into court on the merits."

So what was agreed was that the service would be achieved on the United States Attorney, the United States would have 60 days to respond, and the United States many not ask for any extensions of time.

Orly still wasn't even satisfied with this result and the judge kept saying, "If you want this expedited I'll do this, but we need to get this resolved for once and all."

At one point then Orly said she wanted mediation. The judge's response was, "What's to mediate? Either Obama is president or he is not."

At one point Orly started to read the motion that she filed today. The judge cut her off saying, "I can read." He noted that he had worked all weekend and would have been available to read this had she filed it earlier. "I've seen it. It's not relevant, you're wasting your time reading it into the record."

Waveydavey did note that, as expected, Orly exhibited that she really does not have the socialization skills of others in the legal community. He said it was rather funny, when she first came into the courtroom she was beaming at her Orlybots -- there were a number of them there -- he was the only Obamabot or Obot there -- she had a huge bag stuffed full of things, as well as her purse, and she marched right up beyond the gate and sat down at counsel table.

The courtroom deputy to whom she had not entered her appearance, spoke to her and told her, "It's not your turn. Go back to the gallery and sit down. Your case will be called," and Orly was quite flustered because she obviously doesn't know the custom of a docket call.

Waveydavey also described her as being very pushy and that the judge, on a number of occasions, cut her off. At one point he called for a recess saying, "You need to calm down."

The judge, several times, indicated that he wants to be able to rule on the merits of the case stating, "This needs to be resolved. We need to get rid of all these doubts."

Orly indicated that she intends to file a FOIA request. The Court said, "Go ahead, but it would be a waste of time. If we're going to hear this on the merits there may be rulings, you know, regarding documents."

END OF REPORT BY WAVEYDAVEY

BY BB: My own commentary is this is not the result we are hoping for today but my sense, and the sense of wavey davey, who was there, is that what the judge wants to do is to set this up so that he basically rules on the merits that Obama is eligible to be president and perhaps to shut down Orly's lawsuits. Whether that will actually satisfy Orly and the birthers, I doubt.

Edit: Please forgive any typos of misspellings, as I did not take the time to proofread it.[/quote]

Edit: Justin and Foggy...since the hearing on the Motion to Show Cause "Smackdown" thread was really a thread to lead up to today's hearing, I thought it appropriate to begin a new thread on Keyes v Obama being allowed to proceed. Perhaps the comments since my posting of waveydavey's/BB's report could be moved here for discussion on the case itself? If you don't feel it's appropriate, just delete this thread.

Edit: edited to add link to complaint

= = = = =

AT LOS ANGELES TIMES

latimesblogs.latimes.com/...-small-court-victory.html

Opponents of Barack Obama's presidency claim small court victory

Tami Abdollah
Los Angeles Times
9:26 PM | July 13, 2009

Supporters of a case that disputes the legitimacy of Barack Obama's presidency claimed a small victory today when U.S. District Judge David O. Carter told them to fix their paperwork and that he would listen to "the merits" of their case. But others present for the hearing Monday at the federal courthouse in Santa Ana stressed that the case remains a long way from ever getting a full airing in court and may never get to that point.

[...]

= = = = =

nolu chan  posted on  2009-07-15   20:41:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: All, *Wingnuts* (#0)

AMENDED COMPLAINT [PDF]

Dr. Orly filed an amended complaint in Keyes v. Obama that bears no resemblance to the original. It is now styled Captain Pamela Barnett v. Barack Hussein Obama et al.

A footer on each page reads:

FIRST AMENDED COMPLAINT, CAPTAIN PAMELA BARNETT V. BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA ET AL., SACV09-00082-DOC (ANX), FILED JULY 14, 2009, BASTILLE DAY

The Proof of Service certificate by Charles Edward Lincoln was "Done and Executed on this 15th day of July, 2009."

The header on each page identifies it as Document 22 filed on 07/15/2009.

On all 38 pages appears the name Dr. Orley Taitz, misspelled.

It now sports 54 named plaintiffs and 5 named defendants.

It asks for declaratory judgment per quo warranto concerning the President of the United States, the Secretary of State, the Secretary of Defense, and the Vice President and President of the Senate - not in the D.C. court but in the Central District of California. She explains that because attorney John Hemenway was wrongfully sanctioned by an obviously biased D.C. court, she has been prevented from entering pro hac vice because no local attorney will sponsor her.

A selection of lowlights follows. The English is greatly improved from previous Taitz submissions, but the arguments border on insanity. Maybe they cross the border.

At page 3

Additionally, however, the Plaintiffs herein seek injunctive relief against all four office-holding defendants to limit their powers to order new deployments or assignments of any armed forces of the United States outside of the territorial limits of the United States without express Congressional approval, and further to limit the execution of certain orders of the President of the United States relating to the conduct of foreign policy by and through the use of currently deployed and assigned military force, as well as the appointment of judges or justices and the ratification or modification of treaties during the pendency of this lawsuit until and unless Defendant Barack Hussein Obama's constitutional qualifications are established in this court by clear-and-convincing evidence.

At page 4

Finally, the Plaintiffs seek a declaratory judgment from this court determining whether certain crimes of fraud relating to identity or fraudulent use of sensitive individually identifying information (such as social security numbers or selective service applications) have been committed and concealed by some of the defendants, acting jointly or severally whether or not in formal conspiracy, which would constitute predicate acts of racketeering within the meaning of 18 U.S. C. § 1961 et seq., and thus whether the Presidency of the United States, in 2008, was procured by and through a pattern of racketeer influenced and corruptly organized activities. Injunctive relief concerning such activities will also be sought, although the Plaintiffs' First Amended Complaint does not include any prayer for damages although the Plaintiffs reserve their right further to amend their pleadings as this case progresses, especially once FOIA disclosures and discovery begins.

At page 9

10. An actual controversy exists between the Plaintiffs and the defendants concerning the civil and statutory rights of the people as established under the First Amendment and Freedom of Information Act, among other sources, to demand clear and convincing evidence of the Constitutional Qualifications of their elected officials and of the executive officers, agents, judges, and ambassadors appointed by, or the treaties and executive orders and agreements, who or which may have been appointed or issued by or entered into by the Chief Executive Officer (President) of the United States in particular.

At page 12

22. Plaintiffs ask this Court to declare and adjudge that the framers of the constitution used, and that this Court must therefore apply in this case of first impression, the definition of the Natural Born Citizen contained in "The Law of Nations or, Principles of the Law of Nature, applied to the Conduct and Affairs of Nations and Sovereigns" by the Swiss philosopher and jurist Emmerich De Vattel:

"...natural born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens."

[quote of de Vattel goes on]

At page 14

31. As Obama's East African father owed (by reason of his birth and as a matter of international law) allegiance to British crown (whether or not he professed any), Obama was not a Natural born citizen and does not qualify for presidency. Dual Nationality is a rather new concept that did not exist at the time of creation of the Constitution and Plaintiffs submit that the definition used and the contemporaneous statements of the framers show a desire to exclude from the group of Natural Born Citizens anyone, with allegiance to other sovereignties at birth.

At pages 15-16

33. Recently, in Hollister v Soetoro, another Obama-Soetoro eligibility case was submitted by Attorney John Hemenway. This case was heard by DC District judge James L. Robertson, who completely misstated the presidency requirement, calling it "native born" instead of "natural born" and stating that there is no need to hear the case on the merits and obtain the actual documents because the case was "massaged and twittered on the blogs". To add insult to injury Judge Robertson threatened Mr. Hemenway with sanctions for bringing this legitimate case.

34. It defies credulity to understand how "massaging" an issue on a few partisan blogs be characterized as any kind of resolution of any issue, particularly in a case of national urgency, when there is evidence suggesting, that the inhabitant of the White House is a foreign National, citizen of Indonesia and possibly still citizen of Kenya, usurping the position of the President of the United States of America and the Commander in chief.

35. This decision by Judge Robertson made it impossible for the undersigned attorney to obtain admission pro hac vice and try the matter in US court for the District of Columbia, where Quo Warranto is codified, as no DC lawyer would be willing to subject himself to the threat of sanctions from an obviously biased court, unwilling to hear this issue on the merits.

At pages 18-19

46. In his book Dreams of My Father, (sic Dreams from My Father) Barack Hussein Obama stated that he immigrated to Indonesia, when his mother married an Indonesian National. Indonesia does not allow dual citizenship and Obama's Indonesian school registration shows him as Barry Soetoro (his step-father's last name) and citizenship Indonesian. Obama, has also travelled to Pakistan at the age of 20, during martial law, when entrance to Pakistan was banned to Americans, Christians and Jews, which might be an additional indication of his travel under Indonesian passport, therefore reasserting his Indonesian citizenship and relinquishing his US citizenship if he had a US citizenship.

At page 21

56. Under the Supremacy Clause, while Hawaiian statute 338 might be valid for the in state purposes of the State of Hawaii, it is superseded by the US constitution in the matters of Federal elections and therefore, it is a right of the US citizens around the country, particularly the citizens with superior standing, such as Active duty military, risking their lives pursuant to the orders of the commander in chief or the State representatives, that need to decide on the State budget allocations based on the federal allocations, signed by the president, to have clear prima facia evidence of the legitimacy of such commander in chief and president.

At page 22

62. Some of these exemptions protecting personal privacy apply to "medical and personnel records." 5 U.S.C. § 552(b)(6) (1988). However, it has been for many years recognized that the medical and personnel records of the de facto or de jure President of the United States (such as Barack Hussein Obama today) and even for candidates for the Presidency of the United States are matters of public interest and concern.

At page 23

66. Since the FOIA exemptions that permit an agency to withhold information are narrowly construed, the Court has no statutory basis to rule for anything except full production of the limited number of constitutionally significant documents from the de facto Chief Executive Officer of the United States.

At page 27

84. Consequently, FOIA mandates that Barack Hussein Obama release the records requested below, and the Plaintiffs' request complies with the federal law in all respects: many citizens' requests have been made, and all have been ignored without lawful justification.

At page 32

111. Plaintiffs submit and contend that the people have a civil right or series of rights, actionable in equity under 42 U.S.C. §1983, to demand that their elected officials prove their constitutional qualifications to hold office by clear-and-convincing evidence, and to petition for redress of grievances concerning well-founded doubts concerning their elected officials' competence or eligibility for the offices which they seek or have obtained.

At page 35

122. Plaintiffs reemphasize that they seek relief against Barack Hussein Obama only in regard to his conduct occurring or issues accruing prior to his inauguration on January 20, 2009. Plaintiffs' FOIA and 1983 actions concern only conduct and actions conducted under colour of law by Obama as a private individual running for President of the United States, i.e., his "personnel" file, insofar as this reflects on his qualifications to hold and authority to "faithfully execute" the office of President of the United States.

At page 38

PROOF OF SERVICE

I the undersigned Charles Edward Lincoln, being over the age of 18 and not a party to this case, so hereby declare under penalty of perjury that on this Wednesday July 15, 2009, I provided facsimile copies of the Plaintiffs' above-and-foregoing First Amended Complaint to all of the following non-party attorneys whose names were affixed to the "STATEMENT OF INTEREST" who have appeared in this case in accordance with the local rules of the Central District of California, to wit:

THOMAS P. O'BRIEN
LEON W. WEIDMAN
ROGER E. WEST
DAVID A. DeJUTE

FACSIMILE (213) 894-7819

DONE AND EXECUTED ON THIS 15th day of July, 2009

Charles Edward Lincoln

nolu chan  posted on  2009-07-16   5:49:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: nolu chan (#12)

Should be subtitled:

Down the Rabbit Hole with Dr. Orly Taitz, Esq.

The mind reels.

I never seen so many women since the time they closed the factory down.

Mekons5  posted on  2009-07-16   9:55:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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